01.31.05
Posted in faith at 1:24 pm by
Brian at the faithful skeptic asks a great question about church. “Should Church be safe?” It’s a good question, really. Should church be a safe place, if so, what should church be a safe place for?
It’s an idea that really gets me thinking. I think that there’s an underlying question there that we need answer in order to truly get at the nature of the issue. That question is, “what is ’safety?’” You see, safety means a lot of different things.
Brian describes the safety of one of his fellow parishoners:
One of the people in the group said that there were a couple of key aspects of safety (I’m paraphrasing):
* The church should accept members and guests wherever they are on their journey of faith and recognize that people will always be in different places in terms of theology, worship, prayer, etc.;
* The church should accept what a person can give in terms of their time, spirit and money realizing that lives are often complicated;
* Members should be able to expect that confidences will be held, both by clergy and parishoners.
For this person safety is about tolerance of people being in different places. Brian’s definition of safety was altogether quite different, though no less valid.
My approach was that as a member of the leadership team, I need to be able to feel that I’m accepted in spite of my failures as a leader. I have a very stressful job and I don’t want church to become a place I feel guilty about attending because I’m struggling with my leadership duties.
Fundamentally, I sort of agree with both definitions of safety. Perhaps, Brian and his fellow church member describe two necessary but alone insufficient terms that compose safety. That is, alone these things don’t a ’safe church’ make. For Brian, the safe church was about feeling loved despite ones shortcomings.
Perhaps, these two concerns and desires of safety are a case of different words that describe the same emotions. I don’t know for sure. I respect what Brian and his parishoners are trying to accomplish in developing a Church that offers a ’safe place.’ I wish that the churches I’ve come in contact with were so concerned.
However, there’s a part of me that wonders–is there any such thing as a safe church? I think that, in truth, there isn’t. I’m sort of bending the definition of what Brian is talking about in terms of ’safety’ so bear with me…what’s starting to sound like argumentative, I realize really is not because we’re talking about different things. That said, I don’t believe that there really are any ’safe places.’ The concept of a safe place is one that evangelicals have been screwing up for years. In a world full of crap, no place, not even the church is safe. The evangelical belief that the church is safe while the world is not, is the concept that I recoil from.
I think that probably what Brian and his church mean by ’safety’ I would term ‘welcome.’ I think that they want a church where everyone, despite their theological state or shortcomings, is welcomed just as they are.
I suppose that I think that a Church should welcome everyone regardless of age, sex, race, sexual orientation, etc…and everything that implies…but it’s a place that should be safe for no one…at least according to my understanding of safe as a crutch.
Thanks, Brian, for helping me to think through this!
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Posted in faith at 1:24 pm by
Brian at the faithful skeptic asks a great question about church. “Should Church be safe?” It’s a good question, really. Should church be a safe place, if so, what should church be a safe place for?
It’s an idea that really gets me thinking. I think that there’s an underlying question there that we need answer in order to truly get at the nature of the issue. That question is, “what is ’safety?’” You see, safety means a lot of different things.
Brian describes the safety of one of his fellow parishoners:
One of the people in the group said that there were a couple of key aspects of safety (I’m paraphrasing):
* The church should accept members and guests wherever they are on their journey of faith and recognize that people will always be in different places in terms of theology, worship, prayer, etc.;
* The church should accept what a person can give in terms of their time, spirit and money realizing that lives are often complicated;
* Members should be able to expect that confidences will be held, both by clergy and parishoners.
For this person safety is about tolerance of people being in different places. Brian’s definition of safety was altogether quite different, though no less valid.
My approach was that as a member of the leadership team, I need to be able to feel that I’m accepted in spite of my failures as a leader. I have a very stressful job and I don’t want church to become a place I feel guilty about attending because I’m struggling with my leadership duties.
Fundamentally, I sort of agree with both definitions of safety. Perhaps, Brian and his fellow church member describe two necessary but alone insufficient terms that compose safety. That is, alone these things don’t a ’safe church’ make. For Brian, the safe church was about feeling loved despite ones shortcomings.
Perhaps, these two concerns and desires of safety are a case of different words that describe the same emotions. I don’t know for sure. I respect what Brian and his parishoners are trying to accomplish in developing a Church that offers a ’safe place.’ I wish that the churches I’ve come in contact with were so concerned.
However, there’s a part of me that wonders–is there any such thing as a safe church? I think that, in truth, there isn’t. I’m sort of bending the definition of what Brian is talking about in terms of ’safety’ so bear with me…what’s starting to sound like argumentative, I realize really is not because we’re talking about different things. That said, I don’t believe that there really are any ’safe places.’ The concept of a safe place is one that evangelicals have been screwing up for years. In a world full of crap, no place, not even the church is safe. The evangelical belief that the church is safe while the world is not, is the concept that I recoil from.
I think that probably what Brian and his church mean by ’safety’ I would term ‘welcome.’ I think that they want a church where everyone, despite their theological state or shortcomings, is welcomed just as they are.
I suppose that I think that a Church should welcome everyone regardless of age, sex, race, sexual orientation, etc…and everything that implies…but it’s a place that should be safe for no one…at least according to my understanding of safe as a crutch.
Thanks, Brian, for helping me to think through this!
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Brian said,
January 31, 2005 at 6:41 pm
I like the approach you’ve taken with my question. One of the other ways I’ve been thinking about safety is in terms of ideas. Most people, whether they’ll admit it or not, have a pretty good idea of what they think is right or wrong. Even most of us liberals who like to talk about “tolerance” and “acceptance” believe that we’re right.
It can be easy to welcome people with different beliefs, but in our United Methodist congregration, for instance, it would be hard to make a fundamentalist evangelical feel truly “safe” in their beliefs. Because most of us in our church aren’t convinced that homosexuality is a sin or that all muslims are going to hell.
So I think it is really difficult to achieve “safety” in any meaningful sense. “Welcoming” is definitely possible though.
Great post, by the way.
Brandon said,
January 31, 2005 at 8:41 pm
Thanks, Brian. I think you make a good point, too, about feeling welcome despite ones inadequacies, and shortcomings. I think it’s much easier to welcome someone who acknowleges those shortcomings, but the real test is being able to welcome those who have unacknowleged inadequacies (which I think we all have to some degree.)
Karl said,
February 1, 2005 at 10:22 am
As long as there are people, there will be no saftey.
Jason said,
February 2, 2005 at 3:11 pm
I think you make an interesting point that there may be no safe churches and that the best the church can hope for is to be a welcoming presence.
For me it comes down to a basic understanding of who human beings are and how we choose to honor and respect the person as a creation, and therefore loved, individual of God. Beliefs, I am beginning to think, are a function of our environment and therefore are secondary to our value as humans. The question for me is, can we put aside the assumptions that we make when we hear people talk or act, and relate to them solely on their value to God, and therefore to this world and its communities? I don’t know the answer to this, but if it happens somewhere, then I could imagine that being a safe place to be
grace and peace